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I searched and couldn't find one. There's a separate thread about the plans to build flats on the other side, where the build centre currently is, but can't find anything about this particular plan to build on the area currently covered in trees.

There's a planning application accepting comments until 20th December on Southwark's planning portal. The application number is 23/AP/2780 and the link to information is here: https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=S1WQPYKBJ4500 This is a SINC (Site of Importance for Nature Conservation) ref number SoBII02 and also BOL (Borough Open Land). Part of this greenery by East Dulwich train station has already been built upon when Featherstone Mews was created. Would be a shame for another local green space to be built upon. Even though it is small and currently inaccessible, it's these parcels of land that form a mosaic of habitats for wildlife that are really important for biodiversity. As council documents state: Comments can be made here: https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=S1WQPYKBJ4500

There's a new planning application on Southwark's portal seeking to remove the protective covenants that were put in place in 1990 to prevent the current DHFC stadium being used for anything other than leisure, recreation or education. In order to build 219 flats on the stadium they need to remove this clause. They also need to block access to the Green Dale astro turf so the public can't go there whilst they are bulldozing it and building the new stadium. Comments accepted until 23rd march so don't delay: https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=RQ696ZKB00300 Full version of the Section 106 agreement from 1990 here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ht_hAPixkZZVpjR1pKV0VMcUU/view?resourcekey=0-rgwkAhylmVKbAYlMoG_puQ (admin note: merged with the other thread about this subject)

The judicial review was dismissed.

Judicial Review was heard in the Royal Courts of Justice before a High Court judge on 6th Dec. No decision yet.

Not sure how in the loop everyone is about the planning application to build on the Green Dale astro but Southwark Council are being taken to the High Court as a Judicial Review (JR). The grounds are as follows: (1) A mistake of fact regarding open space deficiency; (2) A failure to properly apply the policies in respect of Other Open Space; (3) A failure to apply the policies in respect of play and informal recreation; and (4) A failure to discharge the public sector equality duty. The hearing is next week - 6th and 7th December 2022. @GreendaleAstro [email protected]

The letter, which only a handful of seemingly random people received, says the consultation is open until sat 14th March. DHFC are saying it closes on 12th March ie thursday... so get your comments in asap!

Another worrying angle that makes the fans roll their eyes is that the proposed 3G pitch is made up of tons of plastic grass (that cannot be recycled) and tons of used, ground-up rubber tyres. There's a lot of concern in the Netherlands about 3G pitches as they installed so many and are now trying to work out how to remove them. The updated documents from Meadow and DHFC say that they will replace the pitch every 10 years! That's a lot of plastic. And all of this right next to a Site of Importance for Nature Conservation where endangered species live. Plus schoolkids being offered the use of the plastic pitch. No matter how much eye-rolling this induces, it needs to be talked about. Further reading: https://fullycharged.show/blog/3g-pitches-is-the-uk-sleepwalking-into-a-public-health-crisis/ https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/about_ntp/bsc/2017/june/publiccomm/stephanattach2_20170628_508.pdf https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3426039/Artificial-football-pitches-cancer-warning-study-claims-hundreds-cases-linked.html

The planning application to build flats on the current DHFC stadium and part of a 4000 capacity stadium on protected land at Green Dale seems to be entering a new phase. Meadow / DHFC have been in consultation with Southwark for the past few months (hence the radio silence) and have recently issued another 100 or so amended documents. The main changes seem to be to the layout of the blocks of flats and a reduction in the number of flats and associated "affordable" housing. The plan is still to build a plastic pitch, terracing, concrete walkways on Green Dale MOL and to surround it in a high wall so no-one can see in from outside. DHFC hope that the planning application will be heard on 22 April. You have until this Saturday 14th March to have your comments heard https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=ZZZV0JKBWR961 Local residents are concerned that hardly anyone received the letter from Southwark Council telling them that they had such a tiny window of opportunity to comment on the 300 documents. Did anyone on the Abbotswood Estate get the letter? What's important now is that you comment.

sjsl: apparently the whole planning website is down and has been since Friday at least. V frustrating. The officer in charge of this application has said that she will accept comments up until the beginning of September. You may also email your comment to Southwark: [email protected] mentioning ref number 19/AP/1867, your name and address. If you don't want your name and address to be displayed, please tell them that.

The Friends of Dog Kennel Hill Wood are putting up some easier to read documentation about the planning application 19/AP/1867 as well as some suggested angles for objecting to it: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/greendale/respond-to-planning-application-19-ap-1867/

hi I know a lot about guinea pigs.... Initial advice: 1) Find out the sex of your pig and if it's male find out if it has been neutered (though you'd be able to see if it hadn't?!) 2) If it's a boar and not neutered, find a competent vet to do this as it can be a nightmare if it goes wrong. (The only vet I recommend to do it is in Reading..Tilehurst vets... they used to be experts in guinea pig care... and probably still are as there is a good community of guinea pig lovers in Tilehurst!) 3) Then you need to find your guinea pig a guinea pig friend... they cannot live alone as they are social animals. DO NOT pair them up with a rabbit!! This is really awful and I've heard terrible tales of the injuries rabbits cause to GPs. They are not the same at all and rabbits can be over-sexed and cause horrific internal damage to a GP, plus they kick. A guinea has to be with another guinea. This can be tricky as males do not take well to living with other males and almost always end up fighting in the end (unless they've been brought up with each other from a young age). So... neutered boars need to live with a sow, and sows can live with another sow or a boar. Don't just go and get another guinea pig and expect them to get on... ideally you should present your pig with two different pigs to see which one they like the best. Some rescue centres may be happy to do this with you. 4) They need a BIG hutch. 1 - 2 pigs need a hutch 120cm by 60cm. Anything smaller is cruel really. And a safe fox-proof run on grass ideally, failing that then a good safe space to run about indoors out of the hutch (this is the best bit about pigs as they can be hilarious once left to roam free-ish). 5) they need a constant supply of good hay - not the rubbish you get as bedding but good Timonthy Hay or other speciality hay. There's a great website: https://www.thehayexperts.co.uk/. But this is possibly more important than anything else - hay all of the time (alongside fresh veg, bit of fresh grass but not too much, water and uncoloured pellets) 6) they need guinea-pig friendly... NOT SAWDUST.. this gives them breathing problems. 7) And they need to live indoors in winter - they can't cope with UK winters. Mine came in to the kitchen for 4 months of the year and would get very excited at Christmas dinner. They do need special care really as they get an awful lot of things wrong with them otherwise. Here are some good resources for you: http://www.guineapigwelfare.org.uk/the-pig-issue/absolute-beginners/ http://www.guineapigwelfare.org.uk/guinea-pigs-united/guinea-pig-rescue/ http://shop.gorgeousguineas.com/ https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk Enjoy them - they are great animals.

There's only a week left for people to comment on the two appeals that have now been lodged with the Planning Inspectorate over the DHFC new stadium on nearby Green Dale, blocks of flats and associated landscaping in the area. If you wrote in before to Southwark Council you should now write with a different angle or additional points to the ones you wrote before. Don't repeat yourself. If you didn't write before you should definitely write something!! The Friends of DKH Wood have tons of documentation and suggested points on their website: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/greendale/planning-inspectorate-appeals/ It's worth looking at the new documentation too that was uploaded this year: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/greendale/documents-for-16ap1232/ The LBS Log Issues document is very interesting, showing Southwark's thoughts on the application followed by the developer's comments. Plenty to write about if you just read this one document! To comment on the original planning application 16/AP/1232 to build on Green Dale and DHFC stadium go to this website and click the "make representation" button at the top: https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/ViewCase.aspx?Caseid=3164823&CoID=0

The Friends of Dog Kennel Hill Wood have put together some info on this latest planning application to try and help people comment: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/respond-to-16ap4051/ http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/greendale/hadley-property-group-plans/

The public consultation is now open until 27th May and you can comment on the proposals here: http://ow.ly/4n3HDX 8121 square meters of Metropolitan Open Land will be taken if the application is approved. The Green Dale is a beautiful area of open land, that is home to woodpeckers, bats, hedgehogs and countless wildlife species (during the Spring Walk on Sunday we saw Chiff Chaffs nesting as well as Blackcap, Dunnock, Greenfinch and Goldfinch). It is being maintained by the local community but needs residents to speak out to help protect it. MOL is the inner city equivalent of Green Belt and therefore protected land, but in recent years there has been an increase in permission given to develop on MOL and so all our protected land is under threat. The Campaign to Protect Rural England has further information on this: http://www.cprelondon.org.uk/resources/item/2319-the-strongest-protection Information can be found about the application on the Friends of DKH Wood website: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/greendale/ You will find all the documents the developers have submitted in an easy to read and organised page (unlike the documents the developers submitted to the planning portal), along with other relevant information to the case. There is also a helpful list of reasons to object to the proposals. Filing an online objection is a relatively quick and simple task. Please join your voice to the campaign to protect this open space for future generations.

Not sure if you know but there is a Spring Walk and Community Picnic in DKH Wood and Green Dale tomorrow (Sunday 24th). All welcome. More info here: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?6,1666747

I know they wanted to consolidate their buildings into one more usable space. Are you sure it's not this that is being talked about?

Two leases also up there: one from 1990 and one from 1994: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/greendale/green-dale-as-southwark-land/ Thanks to mikeb for sharing

The Adventure Playground is Metropolitan Open Land. Not that this means anything in Southwark any more seemingly.

Just letting people know that the Friends of DKH Wood are putting together a list of resources relating to the Hadley / Green Dale / DHFC development on MOL. This new section of the website is being added to as more relevant documents are found. Please email [email protected] with any missing documentation, links or suggestions. The link is here: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/greendale/

The first meeting of the Friends of Greendale will be on Thursday August 7th from 6.30 to 7.45pm at The Albrighton Community Centre, Albrighton Rd, SE22 8AH.

Looks like we've cross posted: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?6,1356936,1356936#msg-1356936 Peter John, leader of Southwark council has said this recently in an email regarding DHFC / Greendale : "Please be reassured. I have now told these people twice in the clearest terms that they will never build on or remove any MOL at Greendale." However, even though Southwark own Greendale (and DHFC lease it off them), any planning applications still have to go through the usual channels. Councillors can't tell the planning committee how to vote so any moves on Greendale could still get approved. Worth noting that 2 applications have been put in in the past: one for a Homebase about 13 years ago and another a couple of years ago to do just as explained above (build new stadium on current artifical pitch, build flats on current stadium). Not heard before about the pitch being privately owned - this needs further investigating. Opening up MOL to developers is indeed a dangerous game as it starts with one area and then others succomb to the same fate. Anyone interested in what becomes of Greendale, please have a look here: Keeping Greendale Green: [keepinggreendalegreen.tumblr.com]

PDF version of the Hadley Greendale "Newsletter" up on the Friends of DKH Wood website: http://www.friendsofdkhwood.org/2014/07/plans-for-greendale/ Also a callout to anyone wanting to get involved in a "Friends of Greendale" group: http://keepinggreendalegreen.tumblr.com/ Labour's stance in the past has always been "no encroachment on MOL" re the Greendale. Let's see what Hadley, Four COmmunications (the hired PR company) and Farrells come up with on the 19th.