
Eileen
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There is another Rye Lane development emerging - 190 Rye Lane. It is a medium large site. There is a pre planning application consultation on: * Thursday 17th September, 12 noon- 2pm and * Friday 18th September, 3 ? 5pm at 190 Rye Lane, near Asda and opposite Barclays Bank. It is very much worth dropping in if you are around then to get a good understanding of the proposals. If you go and have some views please post them as a comment here, as well as giving them to the developers! Here is a newsletter about the proposals - http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/1/1a/190_Rye_Lane_-_FINAL_Newsletter_Low-res_-_10092015.pdf This is an important opportunity for local residents and businesses in the town centre to understand the proposals before the planning application is made, and how they may affect businesses and the area around this fairly large site which extends some way back from Rye Lane. The developers say: Currently, the site is largely being used as a building salvage yard at the back of the site, with a hair salon with flats above at the front. The re-development plans include: ? 22 new apartments including a mixture of affordable and private housing across two four-storey buildings ? Communal gardens for new residents ? Refreshed ground floor retail space ? Potential opportunity for a restaurant located within a new basement
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Hi - did anyone following this thread get to the Fete? It was not such good weather as previous years though the rain stopped before we had to set up! It was so cold and as usual for that spot a bit breezy, but lots of visitors and great fun had by all from the looks of things. And we had non stop conversations all afternoon about Peckham town centre. Great to share information, understanding and ideas. It would be good to hear from you if you managed to get there about what you think of the Fete and our info.
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Thanks for all these points. Yes indeed the importance of the cinema is an integral part of the campaign. Certainly we know the PeckhamPlex is not just any old cinema, but a special one that has tailored itself to Peckham?s special diversity in ages, ethnicity and social & economic groupings. So it has many devotees, and that has always been a key part of the campaign (going on now for over three years, but it's a hard job to interest people in the esoteric planning stuff). But for some the issue is also Frank?s, or Bold Tendencies, or the Multi Story Orchestra, or the spectacular view & liberating experience on the rooftop. The key point here is that the importance of the building as a whole is that it is huge and has even more potential for fabulous relevant 21st century uses than even all these put together. The current uses are a great base from which to build and they are all relevant but not any one of them on their own could win the case. It was this overall potential that impressed the Inspector when we presented the case for a serious rethink. If the interim contract to manage and develop the potential of the empty levels over the next five years works, Jeremy, no one will be trudging through unsalubrious levels to drink beer of varying quality?. The creative endeavours of the Bold Tendencies pioneers have however shown some of the remarkable potential of this big building. Now we have the chance to show the Council it has a much more useful future for Peckham in all its dimensions. And remember we will be at the Peckham Rye Fete in front of the caf? tomorrow Sat 5th Sep from midday to 5pm. Do drop by and say hello and talk about it and see how we can improve the campaign.
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But what does it convey that 4000 people died within a short period of being judged fit to work? Some may have become sick after the assessment but as most were off sick already their deaths so soon after may show rather conclusively that they were not fit to work. Is this really how the assessments are done: "The person who makes the decision, is not medically trained, never meets the client, nor asks his or her doctors for information." Does anyone know what this is supposed to be and how the people for assessment are being selected for scrutiny? It sounds like a nightmare concoction of Kafka and George Orwell's brilliant descriptions of the bureaucratic state gone into insanity.
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John - the info I posted was on their website though on different pages. Did you get more from Companies House?
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Bold Tendencies is a summertime non-profit art organisation, and a Community Interest Company. see: http://boldtendencies.com/#support-and-donate
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Hi Jeremy - Experience with re-using car parks in other places suggests a variety of potential new uses including workspaces for craft, makers and recycling, food growing, film and location studios, retail shops, small business and community pop-ups, and accommodation units. Certainly possible to build units within the levels as an interim use. That is in fact what Bold Tendencies and Frank's Caf? have done to very good effect, though it has been just the summer 4 months season and what we are all looking for are great ideas to enable 12 months' use for the levels below. That is a challenge as running water, heat, and weather protection are needed. But an exciting thing is that local people working hard together over a long time persuaded first the Planning Inspector this all needed to be examined before final decisions taken about its future, and second convinced the Council it was worth asking for bids to do exactly this for the next five years. Let's hope whoever gets that contract makes a really good job of it and gives it a good fair test. Bold Tendencies have the top three levels in a firm lease for the next five years so this new contract is for the empty levels below that. See here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/article/2009/peckham_s_famous_multi-storey_car_park_set_to_be_cultural_hot_spot And this is the prospectus for the bid: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/7/71/20150803_Peckham_Town_Centre_Car_Park_Brief_FINAL.pdf
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Thanks clockworkorange. We look forward to meeting you and discussing these matters. In the meantime the extract below is what the Inspector had to say on this site?s potential for housing. The Inspector decided, after thinking hard about the overall contribution from Peckham needed to make its contribution to meeting the housing shortage, that this site taken out of housing provision would not impede Peckham?s housing contribution. The planning procedural technicalities have now given a little breathing space to discuss it all and make sure the Council has as the Inspector said examined it all thoroughly before decisions are made. So fortunately Nigello no votes are needed just now one way or the other! The Council has just asked for bids to manage the empty levels for productive use for the next five years. This is an opportunity to get additional and different kinds of uses explored and demonstrated. It will show it isn?t just about saving a particular caf? or sculpture park or cinema, but the kind of functions that building and that site can have if it is reused instead of demolished, and how it all fits together on the site. So far in its temporary use it has brought in many more than half a million visitors to the town centre. We also need to think about how the site in the longer term fits with the changes on the way between the railway viaducts next to it and the opening up of the pathways from the Copeland Park. We can explain those potentials with our maps on Saturday and look forward to meeting all who come to discuss it. EXTRACT FROM INSPECTOR?S REPORT http://www.southwark.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10443/final_inspectors_report 131. I have considered the fact that the site is intended to accommodate an indicative 160 dwellings and 1050 square metres of non-residential floorspace. I recognise that this would contribute to the realisation of the AAP?s wider objectives and note that the residential allocation has fed into its housing trajectory. However, it is pertinent that these figures account for a relatively small proportion of the overall housing, retail and business provision envisaged for the AA, that the said overall provision is not derived directly from specific allocations for Peckham and Nunhead in the CS or LP and that, in the context of the borough as a whole, the allocations attributed to PNAAP2 are less significant still. 132. I do not therefore find the housing, retail and business provision attributed to this site to justify redevelopment as opposed to conversion such that the proposal should be modified to provide only for the former or, indeed, to categorise PNAAP2 as an essential component of the AAP. This being so, I am not satisfied that the proposal has been adequately justified by the evidence base. I conclude that the AAP is unsound in this regard and that the Council has much work to do in order to finalise a properly substantiated proposal for this site. The pending preparation of the borough-wide New Southwark Plan (NSP) provides an opportunity for this to be tackled.
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You might find it helpful to see what the Planning Inspector said about the cinema; see extract below. This is from pages 28-29, paragraphs 127-134, of the report which can be found here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10443/final_inspectors_report FROM THE PLANNING INSPECTOR?S REPORT: The cinema/multi-storey car park 127. The existing Council-owned building on this site, which is subject to Proposal PNAAP2 in Appendix C, is home to a six-screen cinema, a sculpture gallery and an open-air caf? on the roof providing views over much of London. Although only on short-term leases and viewed by the Council as temporary interim uses, it is clear from the evidence before me that all three are very popular local attractions that have far exceeded the potential as a focus for cultural and artistic enterprise that might reasonably have been attributed to them when first established. The Council adheres to the view that this proposal is sufficiently flexible to allow for a range of uses and different options for the development of the site and does not therefore render the AAP unsound. However, I find it to have significant shortcomings. 128. The proposal stipulates that ?the cinema should be retained on the site unless appropriate facilities can be provided elsewhere in the AAP area?. The supporting text indicates that ?retained? in this context is interpreted broadly so as to encompass the provision of a replacement cinema within any redevelopment. However, in the absence of cogent evidence to the contrary it appears likely that all three enterprises would permanently cease operations in the locality should redevelopment of this site take place. This would be inconsistent with the AAP?s acknowledgement of Peckham?s reputation as a creative ?hotspot? upon which it wishes to build, as expressed in the supporting text to Policy 2 at paragraphs 4.2.11 and 4.2.12.
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Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can I ask why specifically you want to preserve > the multi storey? I'm not saying you're wrong, > just wondering what your reasons are? > And is the cinema included in plans to demolish? Thank you very much for asking! Yes indeed there are very good reasons for wanting to save the Peckham Multi Storey building. It is the building as a whole, including the cinema. The Council wants to sell for redevelopment. The case for saving it is set out in summary with illustrations in our current display panels which you can see here: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Multi-Storey_Car_Park#Planning_status_of_the_Peckham_Multi_Storey There is further detailed background also on that webpage for those who would like more. The panels will also be displayed at the Peckham Rye Fete on Saturday at the Peckham Vision stall because it is important to discuss this widely in the community. We will have additional information there and some of us who have been involved in the winding issue now for some time will be there to discuss it. The issues were first raised several years ago, and local residents who had worked on this managed to convince the Planning Inspector at the Peckham Planning Hearing that the potential for reusing the building must be fully explored before the Council took final decisions. The Council was not keen to do this, but the delay caused by the Inspector's decision has created a breathing space of a few years. We suggested that in the meantime the empty levels in the car park could be used as a good way to explore the potential, while Bold Tendencies and Frank?s Caf? still had their lease for the upper floors. Consequently, the Council has just asked for bids for a contract to run the empty levels for the next five years. See here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/article/2009/peckham_s_famous_multi-storey_car_park_set_to_be_cultural_hot_spot But they have reiterated that their plan is to sell for redevelopment after that. We need now to ensure that there is a full and effective appraisal of the former car park levels, as well as the building and site as a whole, so that sound decisions can be taken. The context for this is the designation of the site for planning purposes in the draft New Southwark Plan. This is coming out again for its next consultation in October. We hope many people locally will be willing to learn about the issues, think about them and be able to support the campaign for an effective plan for the future. We are very glad to answer any more questions either on the EDF, at the Fete on Saturday or at the Peckham Vision shop in the Holdron?s Arcade at 135a Rye Lane on Saturday afternoons from 2pm (ie after next Saturday when we will all be at the Peckham Rye Fete!).
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Not a lot of people know that there is a big difference between Peckham Rye Park and Peckham Rye Common. The Common has been common open land since land enclosures centuries ago and is protected by the Comman Land law from development and buildings that are not ancillary to its use as common land. The park was a farm and was bought over a hundred years ago by the then local authority for public use as a park. The dividing line you can see roughly where the railing is just behind the Caf?. The Peckham Rye Fete is held on the Common in the area in front of the Caf?. It opens to the public next Saturday 5th September at midday to 5pm. There are the usual favourites of children?s fancy dress at 1.30pm, dog show at 2.30pm, and much else. See https://twitter.com/PeckhamRyePark/status/632496724230205441. We will be there at Peckham Vision?s stall keen to discuss with you the latest news about town centre. Come and tell us what you think about the Peckham Multi Storey, and about its future uses. Hope to see many of you there!
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Planning Application 33 Nutbrook St
Eileen replied to GEEKASAURUS's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Yesterday was technically the last day for comments. But if you get it in the next few days even next week, it should still be taken into account as the committee will be hearing it now in October. There are now over 30 objections. See http://planbuild.southwark.gov.uk:8190/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=neighbourComments&keyVal=_STHWR_DCAPR_9561249 -
Each year on the first Saturday of September (5th) one of the last open air community events of the season is the community Peckham Rye Fete. It is a great fun day with lots of interesting local village-type activities and interesting food, and old friends and new friends to meet. Peckham Vision - http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Main_Page - has had a stall there for several years with up to date news of town centre developments. It is a lovely day of conversations about Peckham - its future and its past and its current state of being. This year our focus is on saving the Peckham Multi Storey from the Council?s plan for demolition and redevelopment, to ensure that its viable future as a cultural activities centre is properly tested as the Planning Inspector said it should be. This has to be settled in the development of the Council?s planning policy for the borough. So it has a number of stages. Please come and learn what is at stake and how local people can contribute to the development of a sensible policy for that building and other big issues for the development of Peckham. For some background info see http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Multi-Storey_Car_Park#Planning_status_of_the_Peckham_Multi_Storey
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Planning Application 33 Nutbrook St
Eileen replied to GEEKASAURUS's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
hi - if you would like to get onto the local Nutbrook, Maxted, Waghorn, Howden street email list about this planning application please email info@peckhamvision.org -
Protect Peckham's Future: art deco, cultural economy, & more
Eileen replied to Eileen's topic in The Lounge
Here are some key points that came out of the workshop last Thursday: https://www.facebook.com/PeckhamRyeStation/posts/837913912946171 In further summary: * next workshop in May will give designs for the new square space/buildings; this has been delayed because of need to do more investigation of construction of existing buildings. This will be an additional workshop so four in all now. * Blenheim Grove corner building may have two storeys added on top of current two storeys. * Holly Grove buildings (Iceland + Hannah Barry Gallery) are excluded from codesign process, so information is withheld on plans being developed for them, in same timescale, ie planning application to be submitted during summer by leaseholders Bywaters who are owners of Iceland. Were you there? Would you add any comments or information? -
Protect Peckham's Future: art deco, cultural economy, & more
Eileen replied to Eileen's topic in The Lounge
Great to see a spirited exchange on this topic. Would be great also to see you at the meetings and discussions taking part, and reporting back to EDF for further discussion. We have put out some info for key issues to think about for this evening - TODAY at 6.30pm All Saints Hall, Blenheim Grove. You can see these here https://peckhamresidents.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/station-workshop-today-6-30pm-key-issues/ and on https://www.facebook.com/PeckhamVision and Peckham Vision grew out of local community concern in 2005 about poor decision making on the big development site designated for a tram depot in Peckham town centre. So it developed a way of local people tracking these developments to help continue the process of throwing light on these complicated matters and developing ways of increasing the numbers of people now following the town centre developments as a whole (over 6000+). We encourage and facilitate where we can ideas to be floated and we collect information about them and aim to translate them to be widely understandable by as many local people as possible. We now have a small place in the shopping arcade at 135a Rye Lane between Khan?s Bargain stores and Sky City. Open 2-4pm on Saturdays and Tuesdays, but shop information displays are open to view at all times. Please come and see us and talk about the issues you raise on the EDF. It would be nice to have yr support for the hard work that goes into this and your greater understanding that some of the criticisms, while tackling important issues which we are also concerned with, are sometimes misplaced as far as Peckham Vision is concerned. We work in detail with local traders and are mini traders ourselves now. Do come and find out the work that a number of people in the community, and in the council and their consultants, have done to widen participation. Could be much better all round, and the more volunteers there are the more can be achieved. -
Protect Peckham's Future: art deco, cultural economy, & more
Eileen replied to Eileen's topic in The Lounge
indiepanda Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am a big fan of art deco buildings - but it > looks to me as if to restore these to their former > glory would cost a fortune. > > I don't know what the ownership status is of them > at present, but if they are owned by the > occupiers, I somehow doubt they could afford it, > and if the current businesses in those spaces > don't own them, I doubt many would be able to > afford the increased rents post restoration. But > perhaps I've missed something and there is a way > of having both. One has already been restored in the last two years by collaboration between the long leaseholder and the current business operators. This is the one housing the Peckham Refreshment Rooms and 4 other businesses. The block next to it has not been restored and so is a useful comparison of the before and after. The Council now know all the leaseholders and tenants. Few if any are owned by the occupiers, but it was the occupiers who shared the cost for the restored block. The restored one is not going to be demolished. But the one next to it on the corner of Blenheim Grove and its mirror image on the corner of Holly Grove is being considered for demolition. The options are: restore OR refurbish and extend upwards OR demolish and rebuild. The previous scheme had the replacement buildings at 6 or 7 storeys. -
Protect Peckham's Future: art deco, cultural economy, & more
Eileen replied to Eileen's topic in The Lounge
More info now here https://www.facebook.com/events/394931794020114/permalink/395626560617304/ about the community event on Wed 8th April. This is a joint event between Peckham Vision and the CLF http://www.clfartcafe.org which has made the front third of the huge Bussey Victorian factory a hub of creativity across music, theatre, arts, crafts and more. This is a longstanding collaboration born in the campaign to save the site from what the Planning Inspector called in 2006 a ?defective decision? to demolish the site for the tram depot. But it took another three years to get the decision reversed. Come and contribute to the community discussion 6.30pm ? 9pm at the Bussey building Wed 8th April about the other matters needing collective community action to protect our neighbourhood. -
Protect Peckham's Future: art deco, cultural economy, & more
Eileen replied to Eileen's topic in The Lounge
PeckhamRose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What am I missing? The photo attached is not of > the Bussey Building. Why would you expect the Bussey? It isn't art deco / 1930s. There are seven buildings in a cluster. You can see them in the poster here: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Art_Deco_Quarter#The_Art_Deco_cluster.2Fquarter. There are a few remaining in other parts of the town centre, but these seven are clustered together around the station. -
Railway Rise Demolition - Consultation now open
Eileen replied to chazzle's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
hi all - I have just come across this thread, and relieved to see that the app was refused. as people say though it can resurface. What we need is a reborn East Dulwich Society or similar community group that comes together on planning in East Dulwich. Such a group can't do everything but the key thing it can do is to keep people connected with each other, who watch out for apps and build up experience in dealing with them. Coupled with this great EDF communicating tool that would be great. Is anyone keen to do something to nurture a group like that?
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