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Local List - heritage of local history & local architecture
Eileen replied to Eileen's topic in The Lounge
Southwark Council will be consulting later this year on the preparation of the new Heritage Local List. This gives a bit more protection to buildings and places that are valued locally for architectural or social reasons. Local people and community groups have a key role to play in identifying these buildings and places for more protection: https://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Local_List If you are interested in taking part in this, whether you are in East Dulwich, Peckham, Peckham Rye, Camberwell, Nunhead or anywhere in Southwark, come to the exhibition 6pm, and public meeting 7pm-9pm on Wednesday 20th March this week ? book a place https://www.eventbrite.com/e/southwarks-heritage-local-list-tickets-58483751475 The venue is the Old Mill Building at 72 Copeland Road, Peckham SE15: see Google location here: The Old Mill was built in the 1880s as a ?British wine manufactory? when sweet wines were popular. http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Old_Mill_Building#Introduction -
Hi ? This message is for anyone who is interested in local history and local architecture. Would you like to identify local buildings and places which you think are important in our local history because of their architecture or their social history? Southwark Council is preparing to consult on a ?Local List? for the whole borough, including all areas of SE15 and SE22. This is a list of buildings and spaces of local historic or architectural importance but which don?t meet the exacting criteria for being nationally listed, but it gives a bit of additional protection. There will be a public meeting organised by Peckham Vision http://www.peckhamvision.org to prepare for this on Wed 20th March: 6pm exhibition and 7pm-9pm meeting with speakers and discussion. The event will be in the Old Mill Building at 72 Copeland Road, SE15. This is a heritage building as one of the few Victorian industrial buildings left in Peckham. It will be a candidate for the Local List and a useful example. More on this here: * background ? http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Old_Mill_Building#Introduction The Old Mill Building is open to visit twice before the public meeting if you can?t get to that: * Saturday 9th March 9.30am to 3pm ? local fundraising boot sale * Wednesday 13th March 6.15pm?7.15pm exhibition and to see the building * more info on these events - http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Old_Mill_Building Here is some initial summary info on the preparation of the Local List: https://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Local_List If you would like to get involved please email info@peckhamvision.org
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Forest Hill Road Surgery - again.
Eileen replied to George Orwell's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
I have been with this practice for over 40 years. It was always very good. Does anyone have any clues about when and why the management took a turn for the worse? -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Galileo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Penguin68 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Would rather pay to guarantee parking,... > > > > That's not what's on offer. You will be > competing > > with all other 'residents' - which may, > depending > > on the size of the zone, be quite a few, and > > include families with multiple cars, if they > can > > afford it - for many fewer parking spaces, > > absolutely (because of the double yellows etc.) > By > > all means vote for a CPZ but do not think that > it > > offers any kind of guaranteed parking, and > > certainly not necessarily close to your home. > The > > 'offer' of 40% additional spaces (once others > have > > been forced out) is not based on any forecast > or > > experience of ED - but is based on other > studies > > -possibly of residential only areas close to > > stations where there is a high incidence of > > through commuters - and does not take into > account > > the draconian imposition of extended double > yellow > > everywhere. > > However if you can currently park of an evening or > a weekend then you can make an informed choice as > to the likelihood of being able to park in a CPZ. Hi Galileo - do you mean that if it is still very difficult to park in the evenings and into the night that a CPZ during the day isn?t much help? That is the problem in my street (Nutbrook in Bellenden). I was told by Joanne the Council project manager for this that they are probably mostly residents in streets nearby in Peckham town centre CPZ parking in our street rather than getting a permit as we are the closest without controls at the moment. We just won?t know until a CPZ is implemented if that is true since no one seems to have any evidence for who it is parks in our streets all day and all evening and all night... -
Hi micromacromonkey Thanks for contributing. A problem is that the situation varies between streets. I am in Nutbrook several streets from yours and we aren't affected by commuter parking from the East Dulwich or DKH areas. We do have our issues but I don't think they are commuter parking, especially as it is often as bad throughout the evening and overnight. Did you go for the two hour slot CPZ? i am wondering if that is the best solution as it reduces I assume the problem for visitors of all sorts especially care giving visitors. And streets without commuter parking issues don't lose the free parking at other times. If we do have it imposed on us in my street it will be interesting to see if affects the evening and night parking. I'd really like to have your views on the timing of the CPZ in the Bellenden area. micromacromonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am glad this thread has been reopened since > yesterday/today have demonstrated the stark > differences that have arisen between weekends and > weekdays on Copleston/Danby/Avondale sinch th eDog > Kennel Hill zone came in. Parking dead easy > yesterday (apart from just around lunchtime with > both churches full so that's to be expected). > Today I had a terminal bike failure on the way to > work so my wife came to pick me up in the car, 10 > mins later she went round the > avondale/copleston/danby block 3 times until she > could find a spot. > > This is clearly either commuters, or DKH CPZ > residents who don't wish to pay for their own > zone. Either way it is a bit silly. It's not the > lack of parking per se (We cycle every day and > could prob manage without the car really) but > rather the fact that non-residents are using the > facilities (and importing the pollution) whereas > we cannot. > > My wife and I have both filled inthe consultation > and said that unfortunately we will have to say > Yes to the CPZ to address the above issues. > > In addition we have both said No to the > 'parklets'. I work in Hammersmith where they have > some setup in a business/high street area and they > get so little use even in that context that I > can't see that they will offer anything in our > area.
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The deadline for comments on this CPZ in the Bellenden area (called by the Council for this consultation ?West Peckham?) is this week Thursday 7th February. https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/peckhamwestparking/ It?s important to get your views in on the principle and the details. Some issues which have been coming up: * Should there be a CPZ at all here in the Bellenden area? * If so, just for a couple of hours to prevent all day parking? * Allocation of paid and permit bays ? look at the maps for your streets. * Will a CPZ free up parking in the evenings for the streets that are full then? * What will be effect on parking for your visitors? * What will be the effect on the shops and cafes on East Dulwich Road between Gowlett Rd and Goose Green of more than half reduction in parking spaces on both north and south sides of the road? Thanks admin for unblocking this thread.
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CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Administrator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So do people want the West Peckham one reopened? > We're happy to do that if it's beneficial and feel > free to just ask in future. Please will you reopen it? Several people have said yes to that. -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry but can't resist > With regards to the comments from intexasatthe > moment > > "Come on Eileen, you know what he means" 😅 :)) ;)) :D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_On_Eileen -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eileen - it seems that the West Peckham CPZ was > locked because it was about a CPZ and there were > other threads about CPZ's . I guess ,even though > they were threads about completely different CPZs > the potential for duplication and confusion was > there . > > I personally would have liked the West Peckham one > to have remained ,moved to the Lounge where non > East Dulwich matters are discussed ,but that's > just a personal view and is not meant as a > criticism of Admin for locking it! I have seen the Admin explanation for it now. Thanks. I agree that if they were going to close it there should have been an explanation either changing the title of the one remaining or moving the 'West Peckham' to the Lounge and saying so. It is frustrating as our CPZ deadline is 7 February and the conversation on that just stops dead with no explanation to why. It was great that it was allowed in the ED Issues page and glad of that. I think the EDF is a hugely wonderful space for local conversation, and I think the monitor people do a great job. So this is not a grumpy criticism. Just I am sad it got stopped without explanation, and am giving some feedback which I hope is useful. -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Mscrawthew Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it was probably because there were > multiple threads about basiclly the same thing? Thanks, but maybe if that was so it was wrong. There are two quite separate consultations one for East Dulwich and one for 'West Peckham' with different deadlines. Closing down the 'West Peckham' one meant that the distinct issues to be dealt with for the 'West Peckham' one lost its continuity. If it was the reason it would have helped to have that explained so that we could have known it was Ok now to put comments about the 'West Peckham' one in the East Dulwich thread. -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eileen Wrote: > > I tried a week or so ago to put a comment about > > the extension on the thread on this forum about > > the 'West Peckham (?North Dulwich) CPZ but was > > blocked I assume by the auto process even though > I > > stripped Peckham out of the text. > > Peckham is not a banned word on his forum! Nothing > was blocked by the Admin team. > > But the West Peckham thread was locked wasn't it ? > Perhaps that's what Eileen had in mind . Thanks intexasatthe for this. I didn't know a difference between blocked or locked, but sure I wasn't able to get my comment posted on that thread though it had been fine until a few days before. Please can Admin explain why that was? I tried several times. From many years ago I was told that Peckham would be blocked from the East Dulwich Issues thread but is OK on the Lounge. So I was pleasantly surprised to see the 'West Peckham' one on this part though it makes real sense as it is so related to the East Dulwich CPZ issue. Also the so called 'West Peckham' CPZ is in SE22 on East Dulwich Road and now the Goose Green ward boundary comes into the Bellenden area as so therefore does the Dulwich Community Council. I hope we can get an Admin explanation. Thanks. -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
trinidad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why did the council wait until today, which is the > deadline for the west peckham CPZ, to extend the > deadline until next friday? Some of us asked for it to be extended in line with the East Dulwich deadline as the two areas affect each other where they join. We were ignored and given much less useful extension instead of one which would enable us to have a discussion in the Bellenden neighbourhood. We were not allowed to have this on the Peckham Community Council agenda and we weren't allowed to raise the issues at the only public meeting there has been (for the Lordship Lane businesses) - ignoring the fact that there are businesses in the Bellenden CPZ area potentially as badly affected. I tried a week or so ago to put a comment about the extension on the thread on this forum about the 'West Peckham (?North Dulwich) CPZ but was blocked I assume by the auto process even though I stripped Peckham out of the text. -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
roywj Wrote: > Peckham, Walworth, Camberwell, Borough High Street > Brixton are all surviving and thriving with CPZs. > I would argue that a CPZ will benenfit shops in > Lordship Lane, especially is it is a two hour CPZ > as offered as an option. It will limit all day > commuter parking and stop long stay parking > (months at a time from other areas freeing up more > space for shoppers at other times. > This is not a comment on the benefits or otherwise of the two hour control system. It is to point out that Peckham town centre has three large car parks two of which are free for the first hour and half. Lordship Lane has no nearby car parks. My street is on the edge of the Peckham town centre CPZ and has been for the thirty odd years it has existed. Parking has got worse and is as bad in the evenings and during the night. Some think that is because of people in the CPZ streets nearby parking here. It's impossible to know. I haven't seen East Dulwich Road shopping parade area mentioned in this thread. It would probably be badly hit. It is split between the two zones 'West Peckham' (ie Bellenden) and East Dulwich. The two CPZ maps are based on wildly inaccurate info about current parking on both sides of East Dulwich Road near the shopping parade that is on the north side. At the Goose Green drop in, Joanna in charge didn't know that there parking currently available is much more than she thinks it is, most of which would disappear under her proposals. She was going on a map which shows the half hour free controlled space beside the playground. She had not realised that there was much un-controlled parking space on either side of that. In addition the south side of East Dulwich Road which is in the Lordship Lane CPZ area showed no parking at all in the CPZ. This is because she was unaware that a whole stretch opposite the shops is totally uncontrolled now. That whole part of East Dulwich Road on both sides manages itself very well. The CPZ will have a bad effect on the shops. The fact that that small area is on the edge of both the CPZ maps means that few may have picked up these issues. Does anyone else regularly park there and have some familiarity with the situation there? -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
singalto Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eileen, at the drop in session last Saturday, > Joanna told me that extending the double yellow > lines as they have and turning the white lines at > dropped curbs into extra long double yellow lines > would increase parking in the CPZ by 40%. Hi Singalto - do you mean they said the CPZ would increase parking space by 40% because of deterring existing parking? If not that, can you say how they said reducing parking space increases it? -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Galileo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > singalto Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > TaVa, the two hour CPZ won?t keep commuters at > > bay. All they have to do is phone to pay for > the > > two hours from wherever they are. It would only > > work if they had to pay at a machine. > > It will if it?s a resident?s only bay (the dark > blue sections on the map) as only the resident or > a visitor to that resident will be able to park > during the 2 hours. The ring and pay will only > apply to the shared bays or pay only bays (which > are green and teal on the map - but that?s from > memory, best check the legend rather than rely on > my memory). At the drop-in at Goose Green last week Joanna the CPZ project manager said that traffic wardens in cars with cameras recording registration numbers check on vehicles in 2 hour bays and they get an automatic ticket if they are there beyond the two hours. Did no one else get this explanation? -
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Did anyone go to the drop-in at Goose Green this evening about the proposed CPZ in 'Peckham West' (otherwise known to many as 'Bellenden')? It would be good to hear what issues and info came up at the drop-in. One matter at the time I was there (near the end) was that everyone there wanted to have the deadline for comments extended to the same date as the extended deadline for the East Dulwich consultation (date to be publicised but towards end February). This was because some were just finding out about it and needed time to contact their neighbours and have conversations and discussions to swap info and ideas. Does anyone share that view? If so it would be good to email that in to the councillors with ward and policy responsibilities: Car Parking Cabinet member - richard.livingstone@southwark.gov.uk, Rye Lane ward - Jasmine.Ali@southwark.gov.uk, nick.dolezal@southwark.gov.uk, Peter.Babudu@southwark.gov.uk, Dulwich Community Council- andy.simmons@southwark.gov.uk Goose Green ward - james.mcash@southwark.gov.uk, victoria.olisa@southwark.gov.uk, charlie.smith@southwark.gov.uk
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CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi MarkT, > I'm saying that the proposed area for each of the > CPZ zones could be subdivided and that ideally the > East Dulwich would be down the middle of Lordship > Lane with different limited hours of operation > each side. So at any time people can still park > for free if they choose the right side. That would > hopefully avoid the negative problems traders are > understandable very nervous about. It should also > mean more free spaces to park for visitors as the > dumped car, very long time parked cars are moved > on. > My point about West Peckham proposed CPZ one side > of Grove Vale is the hope that the East Dulwich > side will operate also at a different times. James - can you comment on these points: * how the limited time of paid parking for a couple of hours works to stop commuters paying on their phones? * will those of us in the Bellenden area (so called now by the Council 'West Peckham') not be able to use Bellenden CPZ permits to park in East Dulwich as it is a separate CPZ? * I had heard from Peckham town centre CPZ residents that they can park only in streets near them not the whole of the town centre CPZ. Are you sure it is throughout the zone our own street is in? * If we get the CPZ, your idea of different times on either side of Lordship Lane sounds useful. Does that relate in any way to the timing for Bellenden which is also adjacent to the north? -
Soylent Green Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Since the introduction of the DKH CPZ parking has > become a real issue at the Grove Vale end of > Oglander and Copleston. Whilst I would have > preferred no CPZ anywhere in the area, once it > starts the problems increase as adjacent roads > fill up with displaced commuters (and people who > rarely use their cars and so are happy to park > them several streets away in non-CPZ spaces). I > find parking near my home very stressful as I > often have to drive around the block a couple of > times to find somewhere, and I fear that if the > Lordship Lane CPZ comes in, the West Peckham area > will become even less tolerable. What is more, if > the closest streets to you are in a CPZ which you > are not part of, you are really stuck, which I > fear will happen here. Unlike some who say the > parking issue is evenings, our street empties out > between 6pm and 7pm and is full of spaces at the > weekend, so this is a commuter problem. And I > don't mind helping out a cash-strapped council > which has been unable to increase council tax to > fund essential services gaining a few extra pounds > in the coffers through CPZs. Hi Soylent Green - I live in Nutbrook St which has the street filled with cars day and evenings and night. There is a slight easing on Sats/Suns but not much. It seems (from driving round looking for a parking place) the same in the streets closest to here which are Waghorn and Maxted. I have heard through posts on this forum that Amott and Gowlett are similarly afflicted. Can you say which street you are so we can see if that throws light on the distribution of these parking issues?
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CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Yes there is a public meeting for business-owners/traders on Tuesday 22 Jan at 2pm to 3.30pm at Goose Green Centre, 62A East Dulwich Road, London SE22 9AT. Here is the Council's info: https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/eastdulwichparking/ ali2007 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I understand there?s a public meeting taking place > next week (Tuesday?). > > Does anyone have details? > > On another note, i?m curious how many people shop > in Brixton which DOES have a CPZ. I for one never > go there because parking is costly / difficult. > Though I know lots of people from Brixton & Herne > Hill who often shop on Lordship Lane. If a CPZ is > introduced I am certain it will kill off trade. > > On a different note, though I still own a property > in HH within the CPZ - I was not permitted a > residents permit as it?s not my main residence. So > even though I have a ?business? property, I have > to pay on the meter every time I visit my > business. Don?t make any assumptions about how > this would roll out in ED. > > Doing any building at your property will be a > nightmare having to get relevant permits from the > council.... > > I for one, do not want to invite traffic wardens > who act like vultures onto our streets. I would > rather pay an annual fee of ?125 NOT to have a CPZ > ;-) -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Yes there is a public meeting for business-owners/traders on Tuesday 22 Jan at 14:00 to 15:30 at Goose Green Community Centre, 62A East Dulwich Road, London SE22 9AT. The meeting will be chaired. The project manager will briefly present the proposals before taking questions. https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/eastdulwichparking/ ali2007 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I understand there?s a public meeting taking place > next week (Tuesday?). > > Does anyone have details? > > On another note, i?m curious how many people shop > in Brixton which DOES have a CPZ. I for one never > go there because parking is costly / difficult. > Though I know lots of people from Brixton & Herne > Hill who often shop on Lordship Lane. If a CPZ is > introduced I am certain it will kill off trade. > > On a different note, though I still own a property > in HH within the CPZ - I was not permitted a > residents permit as it?s not my main residence. So > even though I have a ?business? property, I have > to pay on the meter every time I visit my > business. Don?t make any assumptions about how > this would roll out in ED. > > Doing any building at your property will be a > nightmare having to get relevant permits from the > council.... > > I for one, do not want to invite traffic wardens > who act like vultures onto our streets. I would > rather pay an annual fee of ?125 NOT to have a CPZ > ;-) -
trinidad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is a reminder, that the consultation has now > been extended until 7th February, due to late > delivery of hard copies via the post. I have > already completed my survey. Please make sure you > complete yours: > The Council's website still says this consultation is closing on the original date of 31st January - https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/peckhamwestparking/
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CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
EDWill Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ignoring the rights and wrongs of a CPZ of cost > etc, and looking just at the issue of Lordship > Lane, surely a timed slot during the day of a > couple hours of controlled parking (as in Herne > Hill) should mostly address the reasons for > getting a CPZ whilst minimising the impact on > local businesses or am I missing something? On the surface it does seem this would be an effective solution to stop all day commuter parking. But how can this be made to work when the commuters can pay on their phones? Also would this two hour payment slot be an effective solution for people who come by car to the area here to work? -
CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich
Eileen replied to dulwichresident01's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > . The idea that restaurants will close is > nonsensical. CPZ usually close by 6.30pm, hardly > likely to defer business. The CPZ deters > commuters, not locals. > If you live locally you wont chabge your activity > pattern. If you commute then you are unlikely to > contribute much anyway beyond parking. If you are > a visitor who can afford to go out for coffee or > food then you can afford to pay to park too. A lot of restaurants and cafes are open all day. -
intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eileen that is very helpful indeed and I shall do > as suggested and email. I'm not bold enough to > reproduce a copy here but if someone could I think > that would be a good idea to encourage others . Hi - thanks for the comment. Yes if someone can post a suggestion or their own that would be helpful. But people can just email explaining the effect the lack of temporary bus stops on Copeland and Consort Rds is having on their own journeys. Doesn't need any complex explanations or suggestions. It is the number of heartfelt emails that will have an effect. A lot of people need to email. Spread the word. I have edited the previous post to explain a bit more. But here is a starter for an email: "The diversion of buses because of the Rye Lane gas works is having a terrible effect on my life/journey/whatever you want to say... I have to get to Peckham Rye station and the extra journey from X or Y is ... I am writing to ask you please to support local requests for temporary bus stops on Copeland Road (near Bournemouth Road) and Consort Road (near Blackpool or Brayards Roads)..."
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