On the subject of recycling, I believe people that don't should be hit where it huts most, in their pockets!!! If people were made to pay for any rubbish over a certain allowance, they'd soon start rethinking their habits.... That said, the councils would have to make it easy enough to do... East Dulwich is pretty good for this. I live up in Sydenham, in a big converted building with 14 flats in it. We have NO recycling bins/crates/bags, so my girlfriend and I have to take bags of stuff down to the car park behind the local Lidls where there are about 5 big recycling skip things. I strongly suspect that most of the people that live in out building don't bother... We have 2 normal sized wheely bins for the whole building, and every week there are loads of bin bags on the ground around them!!! I do blame my neighbours for not putting in the effort, but at the same time, the council (Lewisham) could do a lot lot more to encourage people. Once they do that, they'll be able to justify penalty charges!