Cate, there wasn't the time for more classes, there were 7 as it was, as far as I'm aware the same dog didn't win twice, and why not have a retired dog trainer judge it? How on earth could you get the crowd to judge that number of dogs? As for the puppy thing, some larger breeds don't mature until 18 months to 2 years old and as you said its about raising money, more puppies entering, more money FUN FUN FUN!! Leaglebeagle, well done to your CKC and your little 4 year old :)) glad you were pleased! WOO HOO! Millie42 thanks for your offer of help next time, I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated, better luck with your Cocker next time too:) Watch this space when the fete committee ask for help next year, great ideas about small craft businesses getting involved etc. Usually, with bands, they want money from what I remember when I was on committee, we tried to get a steel band from a school once too, but because of the new school year being so close and a few other problems it didn't happen.