Seagullandwot

Its obviously being done for a reason, one which you dont automatically have the right to know, no matter how self entitled your personality appears to be. And to those encouraging them to 'ring up and complain', you do realise this is why everything in this country is surrounded by bureaucratic red tape, don't you? The more hoops these companies have to jump through, the more they bill the council for the work and the less cash there is for important public services. So please think twice and stop being so selfish to deny important roadworks to go ahead just because your sleep is disturbed a couple of nights out of 365.

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Fox on the Hill had huge problems with service > in > > summer - you couldn't get to the bar to be > served > > and you couldn't get served through the app. > > People were leaving after 45 min waits. It was > a > > shambles. The garden is nice but the owner is > > awful. > > Yeah. It's a bit shambolic at the best of times. > But there were a few days/weeks post-lockdown > where the garden and the tables out front were > absolutely rammed and they were just way out of > their depth. > > I kind of like it though. Easy to slag off spoons > and their awful owner, but a cheap pub with bags > of outdoor space and good beer selection... I like > having it there. I thought it was great in the summer when they were absolutely all over the shop, as you could bring your own booze and sit on the benches, pour it into a glass and chuck the empty cans and bottles on the floor. Or simply bring bottles of a beer they stocked and a bottle opener. The staff were far too busy to notice it going on ( plus they didnt have bouncers) and you didn't have to wait for ages for a drink. If you use your initiative in these scenarios, you can prevent yourself getting mugged off.

Pubs in East Dulwich, as well as being boring, are generally a massive rip off. They know that well off, affluent families with cash to burn like to visit them with the 4 children and nanny in tow, and don't think twice spending over ?100 on a simple dinner. The ?6.50 pint of Moretti wont look so out of place next to a ?18 plate of burger and chips, so the pubs is happy to charge this. The Palmerston doesn't want people popping in for a pint, they want to fleece the families which to be fair deserve a good fleecing of their inherited money. A notable exception to this is The Castle. They were still charging ?4.50 for a pint of Moretti post 1st lockdown, so a whole ?2 cheaper than The Palmerston. You wont be able to dine on seabass at The Castle, because it is a proper pub rather than an expensive restaurant with a bar, so do bear that in mind. The EDT would be the next cheapest. Antic actually charge quite high prices here compared to their other pubs, because even a car crash of a company that goes bust every few years and has a whole portfolio of pubs stolen under their nose, realises that there are lots of wealthy folk in ED that wont even flinch at paying over the odds. If you want fairly priced affordable pubs, go to Nunhead or Forest Hill. Nunhead has The Man of Kent, Pyrotechnists Arms and Skehans which are decent pubs with pints around the ?4 mark. Forest Hill has The Bird in Hand where a pint of lager (Carlsberg) can be as cheap as ?2.60 or an ale ?2.10, and no drink even close to a fiver. The Hill, a couple of doors up, is just as cheap if not cheaper. Then there is the Capitol Wetherspoons of course. Most people from East Dulwich will be scared of the above pubs however, as they are normally filled with working class people who are drinking beer, not observing the Creme Fraiche and asking the waitress if they stock alcohol free Kombucha. But if you dont like getting completely ripped off and appreciate pubs for being, well, pubs then do seek out the above options.