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@Earl Aelfheah you used a figure estimated by the RAC then applied assumptions (journeys are less than 20 minutes, and led the reader to the conclusion that cars are parked solely on the road) which is a leap of speculation done on the back of a torn beer mat. If you can demonstrate the average motor vehicle journey (categorised into vehicle type) and not just quote urban myth, account for rural vs town usage plus show the proportion of vehicles parked on the Road , off road and also account for random factors including vehicles in 2nd hand forecourts, classic vehicles in garages, vehicles that are being restored and SORN then your estimate might be closer to fact but at the moment it is just that, your estimate.

Nothing magical at all... you clearly stated 5 minutes 🙄

interesting @Dulwich dweller. According to the live bus tracker, every 12 to 15 minutes and this also confirms it http://www.londonbusroutes.net/times/012.htm Not sure how you magically get one every 5 minutes (which is how the service ran pre cuts) Your assumption is that every car is parked on the road Outside central Lindon, a lot are parked off road, lor in garages. Some do move less frequently than others, granted but some more frequently and most trips are longer than 20 minutes outside perhaps the school run. Your whole calculation is based on wide open assumptions and little fact.

@Dulwich dweller buses were cut, during covid, due to passenger numbers yet TfL recently said passenger numbers were back to 90% of pre covid, so why hasn't the service been restored. Instead we have more people on fewer buses. Obviously you don't use the 12 regularly as it went from an every 5 to 6 minute service to an every 12 to 15 minute service, and still gets "regulated" so that isn't a winner for passenger journey times. @Earl Aelfheah again this rhetoric that parking your car is long term storage, its not. Most cars move in and out of parking on a regular basis freeing up the space for others. Persinally, yes, drivers do pay the full cost of motoring despite your moans, its a net positive revenue generator for the government. But as I gave pointed out, the £130 million isn't used for health or roads so its an additional tax on motorists.

Wait till the electric batteries start failing in 3 to 5 years, that's the largest cost financially and environmentally

Except he perceived polluter does pay: VED, VAT, IPT, fuel duty and in some circumstances CPZ charges. Not sure how much harder you can squeeze them pips before the rebellion starts 🤔

No I'm suggesting that the claimed environmental benefits of getting a new car aren't as ripe as the cost of keeping a car on the Road for longer lessens the current 3 to 5 year replacement overhead madness. 😀

Funny thing, thete was a lot of noise when it was extended to the South and North circulars, you just have conveniently forgotten it. The superloop is partly smoke and mirrors, some express services were renamed superloop and only a few new services actually were introduced. Way fewer buses and routes than were cut in central London. Again, the scrapage scheme wasn't enough to replace a vehicle, and the cost environmentally of producing new cars far outweighs the cost of maintaining an existing car that has already paid its environmental construction dues. Surly in this age of thrift mend amd maintain is the cheaper option both financially and environmentally?

Its to prevent the young whippersnapper from voting and allows grimpy old oiks free reign on who gets in I know, I read it in the Sunday Sport so it must be true (it was next to the article about the routenaster found on the moon ) 😂

Again fair point, except buses in Central London have been cut over the past year* thete are no new tube lines planned or coming south and network rail is outside the Mayors remit. * we almost lost the no 12 route last year but now it is less frequent than before.

A fair point, with the exception that the money raised by ULEZ doesn't go to the health service as that's not part of the Mayors remit.

I find it amazing that 2 out of 3 cars were diesel Especially given that diesel was already seen as dirty and polluting years ago. You live and learn or are you just exaggerating the stats to suit your narrative ? (are you sure you don't work for a council / TfL ? )

I see you aren't denying it's a tax 🤔 Let's be honest the amount offered to scrap a car isn't enough whilst there is a cost of living crisis to allow lots of people to buy newer compliant models especially as demand artificially inflated the second hand car prices. With the ability to pay to drive in with a non compliant vehicle, its not a deterrent but a tax. Ps love your tactic to paint people who object to one thing as being members of wider antiestablishment parties. Believing one thing doesn't mean we believe that the world is flat 😂

If there is any doubt that ULEZ is really a covert tax on Londoners, the BBC has uncovered that since the expansion 6 months ago, it has raised £130 million in fines or fees. 🤔 BBC News - London mayoral elections: How will Ulez influence voters? - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6pyrpew857o

And birds to nest in 🤣