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Do you think cyclists running red lights or cycling on pavements is just fine then? A red light is the occasion when a pedestrian may be more likely to cross a busy road. Because there are significant penalties for car drivers, the vast majority of drivers do stop at a red light; I rarely see cyclists stop. As I said before, the other day a I witnessed a Lime bike shoot through a red light at speed and nearly take out a child. Had the bike connected, that would have been a nasty injury. As Rockets has pointed out, there clearly is an issue with this as City of London Police are cracking down on cyclists.

I don't think that was what Penguin was saying at all. If light sequencing fails how should road users proceed? Given the quite serious penalties for car users running red lights I am still surprised it happens as often as some on here have stated. Now speeding, that is different.

DVR, lots of smears or attempted smears there. One Dulwich posts have the ring of truth about them. Rather than bang on about shadowy, opaque organisations why not address the content OD put out with some really convincing rebuttals. What say you to this bit? "The Council says it wants to block off Calton Avenue because a small number of non-emergency vehicles drive through the junction. In our view, this is down to poor signage – a straightforward traffic management issue. The London Ambulance Service (LAS) was pressured into accepting the blockage at a meeting with the Council in February. However, according to a recent FOI, the London Fire Brigade confirmed “we have had no confirmation of this proposal or communications regarding this”. Why is the safety of local residents being put at risk in this way?

Car or bike, all are dangerous and all should be addressed. I am amazed you saw 5 cars jump red lights in one day, where was this? Perhaps I am being naïve but so many lights are rigged with cameras, wouldn't that mean instant points on the licence? I do think the same type of entitled attitude drives the behaviour, whether on two wheels or four. I especially hate those car drivers that intimidate and tailgate when you have the temerity to stick to a 20mph speed limit.

I think there is some truth in this, and with little in the way of penalties perhaps no surprise. Just yesterday, I saw a child nearly taken out by someone riding a Lime bike, who went through a red light at speed. I have not seen a car run a red light for a very long time, but see many cyclists do it, whether in my car or on my bike.

For anyone who has not read the evidence, it is worth a look.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/rac-pothole-index-statistics-data-and-projections/ Not the best evidence but certainly indicates matters are not improving. Can CPZ and other council collected car- related revenue be ploughed back into road, pavement repair and upkeep? Is there info on this for Southwark? Surely this would be a better use of those funds than creation of areas like Dulwich Village Sq/ junction?

Do the council services still collect garden waste/ empty brown bins even if you have not subscribed and paid for the service? What is people's experience?

I asked you much earlier in the thread.

Just to correct you, it is not just 3 days, it is nearly a month of disruption for the sake of 3 days. You still have not said if you support the event being extended?

Ah, we have tried the Nimby approach and now it's personal attack time. I don't feel security guards, there to protect the interests of a private event, add to or are in any way appropriate to the park ambience. I don't think I am alone. To infer posters who disagree with the idea that hiring out parks for festival-style events is all great are therefore DM readers is laughable and a lazy, cheap shot. The notion that a poster like DKHB is a vociferous DM reader is just ludicrous. Shall we try to keep the discussion civil and adult? If you read the evidence and objections to extending the event ( and indeed having it at all) you would know that the concerns are entirely valid, so much so that the council and organisers had to back down this time. But I have little doubt they'll try again next year. I am prepared to live with the three days, just so long as this does not set a precedent for extending this event or mounting other events of similar scale, down the line. But Cllr Catherine Rose is on the record saying that is precisely her aim.

Have you read the objections and the supporting evidence to the event? It is not about crime waves but long-term impact on the park. Do you really believe that after each 'clean-up' the land used is returned to baseline? Do you really think that the month's worth of upheaval, noise and light pollution has zero effect on the wildlife? It is disingenuous to make out that the impact on the rest of the park is negligible and everything carries on as usual. Do you support further extending this event? Because if this Council have their way that is what will happen.

The point here is to stop further degradation of Peckham Rye Park and other green areas. The first action would be to extract a pledge that the Gala event will never be extended and no similar events mounted. I would also maintain that Peckham Rye Park was never suitable for an event of this scale.

But surely protecting and cherishing our green spaces is for the greater good?

But, the 'vast' open spaces like Hyde park, Clapham Common, Finsbury Park, already have these events only a short bus, train or cycle journey away. So these sort of events already exist for those that want them. However, I would not describe Peckham Rye park as a vast space. It is relatively small and compared to the aforementioned, in a totally different class in terms of scale. That is, of course, why it should not be used to mount this kind of event. This is not about serving the community, though there will always be takers for an event like this among dedicated festival goers. There is no pressing need, this is purely about the council making money by whatever means it can and I think we will come to regret letting them do this. FWIW I also like live music but there is a time and a place and I find it hard to accept that our supposedly envrionment-loving and green-friendly council is actively pushing to extend this event.