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Big up for the SE23 Massive! Good discussion on their local forum (which has become a bit more interesting after being in the doldrums for a decade): https://www.se23.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14870 The Times article is a bit (trying to think of an inoffensive word) but they and the Standard have to fill their property pages with something

The point I am making is that rich people will always be able to afford better things in life. The industrialists who took over from gentleman farmers, particularly on the arrival of the railways, hardly made Dulwich into Welwyn Garden City, Saltaire or Bourneville. Although you could argue the Dulwich Estate did something like this in parts of the village and West Dulwich in the 60s and 70s. Clean air is a relative term, cleaner air would be better. From my understanding Clean Air Dulwich are promoting active travel and less car journeys. Clean air for all, and One Dulwich, are principally against restrictions on drivers. You cannot get cleaner air without some restrictions on drivers. It's fair to ask who is behind all the groups, although I sense and agenda on this thread.

It feels like a group who don't believe that private motoring should be discouraged and have no answers to the air quality problem, whereas the original Cleanairdulwich are campaigning to reduce pollution. Sadly we live in a world where if you are rich, you will generally live in nicer houses, have nicer environments and cleaner air. That is capitalism for you, but I doubt whether there would be greater health equality in the former Soviet Union either. Dulwich village was once full of industrialists and the like who didn't want to live in polluted central London where most would have made their money. I will contact Cleanairdulwich and hopefully provide a better perspective. Whether it is one individual or a whole community I support agree with what they are doing.

I've not heard of many moving to SE23 from SE22 or choosing SE23 over SE22 in the first place. Certainly Clapham and other expensive places to the west. It may be that this is my demographic but there was always a feeling that Forest Hill was rougher, off the beaten track, until the arrival of the Overground changed everything. But there again the gentrification of Penge is astonishing

Rather presumptuous of you saying culprits You can befriend them on Facebook, get updates from their website or email them at [email protected] https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.CleanAirDulwich.co.uk%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR01aih80tPEKaU9kXypIITY-v0ZIhYEUXvwE3PImJzgnyGFUuJVE-i5DWk_aem_AXLC6W7mwtwkeKWZS9PplAlis6PKyTssL7WRhyNp4F7txEfLFqFOs1pW5oPQEGf1Xg8MIFLEtVo7LOYDc5-Syhe6&h=AT0NTPvL3xl2XWsIWMII3GauR5mmr8mpMZWaj9w55rKGvALOi3n_atkvPyBGcVBhV9t2Kb8vD1s4BzMcqLmUsoujGSsMGgWdn-duhVcofBi_RDqoM2eFT_wMsK_RW_2VYvWQDuozP7tommVcEoI maybe better link https://cleanairdulwich.eo.page/signup?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR01aih80tPEKaU9kXypIITY-v0ZIhYEUXvwE3PImJzgnyGFUuJVE-i5DWk_aem_AXLC6W7mwtwkeKWZS9PplAlis6PKyTssL7WRhyNp4F7txEfLFqFOs1pW5oPQEGf1Xg8MIFLEtVo7LOYDc5-Syhe6

Back to the good things about cycling - social rides organised by Southwark Cyclists, wonderful, always posted on the events page

Article is about Government enabling cycling, which would be a good thing. Sadly Sunak doesn't like active travel and public transport and wants to win votes by appealing to hard line motorists. His days are numbered. If you look at Johnson's manifesto he had failed on most pledges the most spectacular being delivering the benefits of Brexit. He also failed on free cycle training for all children. Barriers to increased cycling include larger cars and poor driving standards.

Definitely a joy! I'll post elsewhere 😃

Thread about what's good. Please don't hijack. By all means start a separate thread

Flavours are great, takeaway dosas really don't work as they are soggy not crisp. I order dosas when eating at a small chain in Harrow, comparable flavours, crispy, and maybe 40 percent cheaper, reflecting Harrow not Peckham and that the chain has a good flow of eat in diners. But Harrow a long way! Certainly not a generic Indian takeaway which I find all the same.

Forest Hill has bust the £2.5m barrier with the Huf Hause (or Huf Hause style) overlooking central London, for those of you unfamiliar with this Bauhaus (architecture not the 80s band)architectural tradition : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huf_Haus Very much divides opinion - me? Great design, wrong location, would hate to be the houses overlooked by it.

Plenty of properties getting up to 2 million, and a few beyond, in SE23. Premium for large Victorian houses, such as the lovely Christmas houses which come with large gardens, and being on a hill, many 30s houses extended and modernised. Down side is perpetual building work, noise, skips, builders. Expect that the same in newly gentrified atras