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Have been to both pubs in the evenings - whilst fine if there is only a couple of you but quickly gets full up and noisy. It will be a Friday evening - the only time everyone can make it due to work commitments. We went to Maria's Tortillas next to the Picture House last time and the food there was great for everyone, although we did not have the 10 and 12 year olds with us that time. I am hoping that the Persian restaurant opposite Grove Tavern will be opening in the next 3 weeks as this would be ideal. I tend to stick to fish, chicken and veggie meals.

Can we have a break from M and R please?

Yes, but only until around 8pm from what i can tell!

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Oh my.....if you think Underhill is a main road I would suggest you need a bit of a rethink. I think you have summed things up quite well! Yet you feel compelled to share your wisdom to us as well. It does affect many people who were both my neighbours and friends and parents of children who went to Goodrich with our kids. And they are livid because as people who live in the area and have had to live with the LTN displacement along Underhill and surrounding streets they are incredulous Southwark are doing this as it makes zero sense and will deliver traffic hell for St Dunstan's and St Aidan's and are smart enough to see through the council nonsense.

I like the use of the world real estate, something we don't tend to use this side of the pond unless we are talking large pieces of land. I understand that real estate does cover individual properties. Perhaps estate agents used to be known as real estate agents. Let's ask AI Ah, it started when they were involved in selling the estates of the landed gentry, and then moved into the mass property market.

You really need you to explain this as it confuses me. There is congestion for example at Barry Road, as you would expect where it meets a main road. There is congestion sometimes due to the P13. I do not see Underhill as a particularly busy road, It is a main road so of course it is meant to take traffic, I really don;t know what this displacement you and others go on about. Are you saying that it takes traffic off Forest Hill Road and Lordship Lane? That is a new one on me. The South Circ, apart from when there was roadworks at the Grove Tavern, appears no better of worse than it has been for most years I have lived in SE London. If you are talking about traffic from the South Circ using underhill then Wood Vale and Underhill at the junction would see a lot of traffic, I don't see that and would question why it would go this way rather than down LL. Similarly if they went some convoluted way such as Friern, Uplands or Barry Road onto Underhill. I'm afraid it just doesn't add up. That or I am living in a different world. No you are not, you are not addressing my point but avoiding it. Just answer the question, does this scheme affect you? It hardly affects me. I await your answer in anticipation (and hope).

@malumbu I was merely addressing your playground antics....to be fair it does seem as if you started it... I do live further away now but for a long time lived a darn sight closer to Underhill and Ryedale than you do so just letting you know you're trying to pick on the wrong person in the playground. This one knows the area very well and has been consistently very vocal about the negative impact the LTNs have had on Underhill as I saw it first hand.

The craziest thing is there’s only one session in the morning on weekends now so it’s always MENTAL

I understand you live further away. Underhill was my cycle commute for twenty years. I still use it regularly inlcluding yesterday and today, pretty quiet at 8.30. Why can't you accept the simple fact that you are not particularly close to the affected roads and are affected as much as I am. It's a fact. The nah nah nah playground response isn't very constructive.

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22 Upland Road - next to Eric’s. Another recommendation for this cute cafe. The coffee is excellent and the owner very friendly and helpful.